Hi Jada, I wrote the series of articles on Justice Junction that covered the murder of Laurie Show by Lisa Michelle Lambert, if I can be of any assistance just give me a holler; and welcome to the board!
I have read your articles on the case, which I found to be very imformative.
I have been working on the case for a year now, although I am no closer to an opinion yet!
I gather you think LML is guilty?? "I wrote a series of articles on Justice Junction that covered the murder of Laurie Show by LisaMichelleLambert"
Regards, Jade
Jade, Without question I think she's guilty. I say 99.9% because in reality only God knows the truth, but after talking to investigators in the case, Laurie's mother and a few other people involved, yea, I believe she was guilty as sin; there were too many things pointing to her as not just an accomplice but the primary. Why would Yunkin want to kill her? There was no reason, the only person that had a reason to kill her was Lisa. Jill
I agree LML had reason... Lawrence Yunkin also had reason, he raped laurie, charges were pending?? God knows why Tabby went along... maybe for some sort of thrill... (I have been informed that she has 1 appeal left) LML is definetly guilty of being an accomplice and maybe more, therefore deserves to be in jail!
I have been in contact with the INFAMOUS Lawrence Yunkin, who still to this day denies any involvement or knowledge of what was to occur, which I 100% dont believe and told him so! He admits he wore the earing that day but has no idea how it got in Laurie's house?! << LAUGHABLE!
I am currently studying criminal psychology, and lucky for me I have been given this case to work on!
ALL the key players are very interesting to say the least!
Regards, Jada
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I agree LML had reason... Lawrence Yunkin also had reason, he raped laurie, charges were pending?? God knows why Tabby went along... maybe for some sort of thrill... (I have been informed that she has 1 appeal left) LML is definetly guilty of being an accomplice and maybe more, therefore deserves to be in jail!
I have been in contact with the INFAMOUS Lawrence Yunkin, who still to this day denies any involvement or knowledge of what was to occur, which I 100% dont believe and told him so! He admits he wore the earing that day but has no idea how it got in Laurie's house?! << LAUGHABLE!
I am currently studying criminal psychology, and lucky for me I have been given this case to work on!
ALL the key players are very interesting to say the least!
Regards, Jada
Jada,
I'm not sure why Tabby went along with it either, it's entirely possible that her story about being afraid of Lisa is true. I don't think that I'd ever be afraid of a person enough to commit murder - but I know others have been. From what I understood from Lisa's dad, they had decided not to press charges against Yunkin for rape because Lisa just wanted to let it go. I think that she believed (and probably rightly so) that it would only make Lisa more angry and would encourage her to come after her more. I also agree, Yunkin's a liar - he knew what was going on in that house. I don't know if he was actually in the house, but if admitted to wearing the earring that was found in Laurie's house - then the only explanation is that he was in the house - period.
Grats on college - I took a couple of criminal psychology during my six years in college. I'm nearing the end of my masters (only two classes left!) in criminal justice and from there will head to law school and my PhD. I figure if I'm going to set the bar for my children where college is concerned - I might as well set it high lol!
One more thing about Tabby - I think that if there is any of the three that deserved any type of leniency(which wouldn't be much of anything), it would have to have been her. I know that she held Laurie's legs while Lisa slit her throat, but I don't know if she really knew what was going on behind her and what Lisa's intentions really were. I spoke to her father briefly years ago and he insisted that she didn't know that was going to happen. Once it got to the point of no return and Tabby realized what was going on - there wasn't much she could do. If you look at Tabby's past, she didn't get into trouble and she was a good student. Lisa on the hand was/is the exact opposite. Tabby is the only one out of the bunch that I feel the least bit sorry for. As an adult who got into some trouble myself when I was younger, I know what it can be like to get sucked into something that's plain and simply put, out of your control and it's awful. Laurie paid with her life for Lisa's ignorace and vengful anger, now Lisa and Tabby are paying with theirs. The one thing that I never really understood was how Yunkin got off with such a light sentence. It's been awhile since I looked at the case, but didn't get only eleven years or something like that? He should have been tried at the very least as accessory to murder which carries more than eleven years. Heck, robbers who drive the get-away car during robberies (especially when someone is murdered) get life - he should have too.
Jada, While I'm thinking about it - I think that any juvenline that commits this type of brutal crime really needs to be locked up for the rest of their days. Most teens know the difference between right and wrong - though I did read articles (during my juvenile classes) that said that teens shouldn't be held as accountable as adults because their brains aren't fully developed until they're 21. I did a paper on the death penalty for juveniles and at the end of the paper, I still hadn't come to a conclusion as to whether it should apply to them or not but thankfully my professor said that not making a decision WAS making a decision lol .. I thanked her for her infinite wisdom and the A+!
Greetings Jada, I'm Anna aka annarocket. I'm Jill's henchman....uh,I mean,I'm the Senior Author,Editor and I moderate this board. They call me Tyler Durden.
HA HA HA! It's Saturday night and we gals are working,we are allowed to laugh! Seriously though,it's nice to meet you,and welcome to our hang out.
Jill's piece on the Laurie Show murder was no less than heartbreaking,IMO. Lisa Michelle Lambert is a sociopath who had a documented history of terrorizing Laurie for months after Lawrence showed interest in her. When Laurie was raped by the "infamous" Lawrence [that is so pathetic it is funny] Lisa lost it big time and poor Laurie became a victim of constant harassment.Not only at school,but at work and at friends,and she became more and more withdrawn. We all know how it turned out in the end.
Tabitha....she is kind of the oxymoron in this story. She participated in Laurie's death in a way that I feel she is equal to Lawrence and Lisa.Not only did she hold Laurie down while Lisa stabbed her and nearly decapitated her,she lied to the police. It has been published that Tabitha was not particularly close and personal with Lisa,that she was just using her for rides and for making other friends. Is that the behavior of someone who would later be accused by Lisa of committing the act with Lawrence while Lisa sat outside crying and shivering in the December cold? You be the judge.The only thing that seperates Tabitha from the other two is that AFTER the fact she showed remorse and testified against Lisa and Lawrence.
We've had many the discussion over this here,including one conspiracy theorist who insists none of us know "the REAL" truth about how Laurie died and Lisa was railroaded. The truth is,three people were involved in the death of Laurie Show:Lisa Michelle,Lawrence and Tabitha. Lisa and Tabitha are still incarcerated and Lawrence,after serving 12 years of his sentence,was released to a half way house in York,PA. He was then released to live with his family who relocated from the area. He remains on parole until December 2011 which is the expiration of his original maximum 20 year sentence.
Ok,that's it for me,I'm gonna have a shot of Jager and watch SNL. This weekend has been ridiculous.
Lawrence was released in 2003 after serving 12 years of his sentence, he now lives in GAP, PA. He has a new girlfriend and is currently looking for his daughter Kirsten Elizabeth! (Who I have also been in contact with, I think it's safe to say she want's nothing to do with him, maybe LML's mother's doing??)
I was sure rape charges were pending against Lawrence... He told me so?? It's also in court documents?
I too feel very sorry for Tabitha though I believe she should be in prison. She too implicated Lawrence at her trial, then blamed LML at LML's retrial. Her mother still hopes for her freedom one day.
I totally 100% think Lawrence was in the apartment, Hazel seen him exiting the complex, where he denied ever being??
Anna
I totally agree, I don't think LML ran down the stairs and waitied down there for Lawrence and Tabitha, that just doesn't make sense. She hated Laurie, in her eyes Laurie had ruined her life, for which she thought Laurie had to pay...
Sorry Anna, I didn't think Tabitha testified against Lawrence, only LML?? There was no need for her to testify against him, he'd already been given "The deal of the century". Why they took her testomy into account I don't know, she too implicated Lawrence at her trial.
I do hope I come to a definite conclusion soon.
Regards, Jada
-- Edited by Userev9531 on Sunday 13th of September 2009 04:50:45 AM
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Grats on college - I took a couple of criminal psychology during my six years in college. I'm nearing the end of my masters (only two classes left!) in criminal justice and from there will head to law school and my PhD. I figure if I'm going to set the bar for my children where college is concerned - I might as well set it high lol!
^^ FANTASTIC!! ^^
I still have a long way to go before getting where I want to be, a Criminologist!
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I might have that wrong about Tabitha testifying against Lawrence but I know she turned on both of them in LML's first trial and admitted both of them in her own trial were to blame. You are 100% correct about that...and I agree...why they took anything she said into consideration after she got the "so-called" deal of the century,is a question better answered by the assistant deputy DA who prosecuted this case.
Forensic evidence [the pearl earring,hair and 2 carpet fibers] show Lawrence WAS in the apartment so he can save his breath. I'll take me some good old scientific DNA over the word of a murderer and a rapist any day. He can say he wasn't there untill the second coming of Jesus Christ for all I care. I'm not buying it.
LMAO. I got up this morning and had 10 hate mail about this. Christ people,it's Sunday,can you give it a rest until tomorrow? I'm going to church later and I'm going to have freakin homework just like the other people here who are trying to make a difference and not just finger pointing and name calling.
I kind of got the reputation around here for being the local hard ass who has no sympathy for anyone,and I want to take this oppertunity to say that's just not true. I do have sympathy for someone,and that would be Laurie and Hazel Show. Those people did not deserve the hell LML brought down on them.
Yea, Tabitha didn't testify until LML's retrial, up until the retrial she said both LML & Lawrence were in the apartment. At LML's retrial she said only she and LML were in the apartment and not Lawrence. Tabitha has changed her story just as much if not more then the other two.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the full truth off any of these. They have lied so much they proberly believe what they are saying now...
I think Lawrence should be serving a LIFESENTENCE aswell, which he isn't. Maybe that would grant some sort of relief to the other 2?? I don't know.
Have you ever seen pics of the 3?? (before they went into prison) I have, and I can't believe 3 people who look relatively normal could get involved in something like this!
I do believe there was prosecutorial misconduct in this case, which I don't think the Police/Prosecutors necessarily needed to do for a conviction. (Sweatpants / earring / recording of river search / finding Lawrence's bloody sneaker / Scratches on Lawrence / Laura Thomas's perjured testimony / 29 questions) The list goes on!!
This however does not make LML innocent!
What do you think about the little things above^^^
Regards, Jade
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What do I think.....I agree that we will probably never know what really happened because all three of them have changed their stories so many times it is pretty much like hamburger helper--just a bunch of stuff in a pan with a little meat in it to hold it together.
There may have been misconduct on the prosecution's part but again,like all the lies,it's hard to seperate the noodles from the beef. [back to the hamburger helper analogy....can you tell I haven't had breakfast and the TV is on?]
I think they needed some of that evidence,like the earring and the sweatpants.But some of it was unnecessary for a conviction,like the 29 questions.That was just LML's way of stirring the frying pan and getting it all up in the mix.
Here is a question of mine for you:what do you think of LML's repeated accusations that she was raped by prominant members of the police force [one of whose alibi was that he was on his honeymoon when LML accused him of raping her]?
You asked me what I thought and this is it:all three of them are equally guilty,they all should be serving life with no possibility of parole. I find your statement "maybe that would bring some relief to the other two," interesting.I'm not in the habit of considering the feelings of other criminals in the sentencing/parole. Maybe I should be! I like that you've given me something to think about. This case has been so controversial here, has literally been an issue I've had to ban people over when they went psycho on us. Let's hope they don't show back up because so far,this has been interesting.
Here is a question for you:what do you think of LML's repeated accusations that was raped by prominant members of the police force [one of whose alibi was that he was on his honeymoon when LML accused him of raping her]? I don't believe a word of it! Without a doubt LML is a pathological LIAR.
I don't care much for criminals either, especially ones who commit such heinous crimes like this one, I think this one bothers me because LML & Tabitha were so young?
When I first started working on this case, I was convinced LML was guilty of first degree murder (using the knife) until I dug a little deeper and found that Police had fabricated/altered evidence. Although I don't think she's innocent, she's definitely guilty of second/third degree if not first. She had reason and opportunity - do I believe the Prosecutors proved her guilt without reasonable doubt for first degree - NO! There was definitely doubt.
LML eyes speak volumes dontya think?
Can you imagine what she's thinking with regard to Lawrence being free?
Hazel's testimony; I would always believe someone in her position over three people who constantly change stories. I just don't get the following things:
Why didn't she mention her daughter had made a dying declaration in the first three weeks? (She first mentioned the dying declaration when interviewed by the lead prosecutor - the one accused of the misconduct)
Why was she screaming "Michelle did it, Michelle did it, Brad (Laurie's boyfriend) seen it, Brad seen it, he was here, he was here" (He wasn't there) to police and neighbours? (She didn't mention the dying declaration there either)
This case has been so controversial here, has literally been an issue I've had to ban people over when they went psycho on us. Let's hope they don't show back up because so far,this has been interesting.
I know LML has supporters; one in particular had a website. Unfortunately I never got to see the website (freelisalambert). It had already been shut down when I started on this.
Regards, Jada
-- Edited by Userev9531 on Tuesday 15th of September 2009 04:42:31 AM
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Sorry about that Jada,I'm having serious laptop issues today. Pardon the editing.
Anyway,to answer your question,I think the state proved its case,there is no reasonable doubt and I believe justice has been served in the case of LML.As for what she is thinking on Lawrence's release? I suspect it is something highly vindictive and more than spiteful. If I had the oppertunity to look in LML's eyes,I honestly believe all I would see would be her trying to figure out how she could manipulate me,and I don't find her interesting.Textbook sociopath.
On Hazel...eyewitnesses [or people finding a loved one dead/dying/murdered] are notorious for not being able to recall details correctly,even if they are facts that happened right in front in front of them. That didn't suprise me at all. I don't know what that business was about Brad seeing it,because I also knew he wasn't there.
We are all MOST well aware of freelisalambert.com.Trust me,you don't want to go down that road here.
We are all most well aware of freelisalambert.com.Trust me, you don't want to go down that road here. LOL. I have no desire for LML to be released at all, nor Tabitha for that matter. I would be very afraid if LML turned up on my street, whether she actually murdered Laurie or not, she's definitely EVIL and EVIL belongs in prison!
I don't think the Prosecution proved guilt without a reasonable doubt, not for first degree murder anyway. She herself admitted second/third degree for which she should spend the rest of her life in prison along with Tabitha and Lawrence. I am under the impression; correct me if I'm wrong, if you are charged with first degree and that isn't proved without a reasonable doubt then the Judge/Jury has to come back with a NOT GUILTY verdict? (Even if the Prosecution proved or the defendant admitted second/third degree) Maybe then re-charge you with second/third degree.
As for what she is thinking on Lawrence's release? I suspect it is something highly vindictive and more than spiteful. I totally agree with you. I have 'goosebumps' when I think of what is going through her "mind" when she thinks about him being out.
Fair point with regard to Hazel's testimony and I totally agree with you, LML would be looking for a way to manipulate you or anyone else interested in knowing the truth.
At the end of all this saga, what I am trying to figure out is if LML and Tabitha should be relased as Lawrence is out? Not that I think that would be right, but isn't that meant to be the Law? Lawrence played just as much of a part if not more than Tabitha and LML and he has been released. Not that I would like to see any of them out in society or for Hazel to live with the fact that no one has really been punished properly. I must admit, I am also trying to figure out who used the knife on Laurie Show. But even if LML/Lawrence/Tabitha used the knife, they are all as equally guilty.
Regards, Jada
P.S - I love the tatoo!
-- Edited by Userev9531 on Tuesday 15th of September 2009 04:55:01 AM
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Let me get this strait:you are "just trying to figure out" if LML and Tabitha should be out because Lawrence was paroled?It's a damn good thing that decision isn't up to you!
And beyond that,you,"must admit,I am trying to figure out who used the knife on Laurie Show."
Have you reviewed any of the hundreds of pages of trial transcripts that Jill and I read,the mountain of case evidence Jill recieved before she wrote that piece?
You seem to be the only one with any questions,and what seems to be support of LML/Tabitha and Lawrence....even though you say in a completely different sentence that"they are all equally guilty".
Make up your mind....and then stick to it. You look mighty foolish right about now. I'm almost embarrassed for you,my inbox was full of PM's on your little conspiracy theory re:LML.
Have you reviewed any of the hundreds of pages of trial transcripts that Jill and I read, the mountain of case evidence Jill received before she wrote that piece?
No, I haven't read the mountain of case evidence that Jill has. Though I have gone through transcripts, nothing compared to her I don't expect.
My inbox was full of PM's on your little conspiracy theory re:LML.
I most certainly do not have little conspiracy theories. She's definitely guilty as I've said before, as is Tabitha and Lawrence.
Let me get this strait: you are "just trying to figure out" if LML and Tabitha should be out because Lawrence was paroled? Its a damn good thing that decision isn't up to you! And beyond that, you, must admit, I am trying to figure out who used the knife on Laurie Show."
To pass this year I have been asked to come to the conclusion who I think actually used the knife and therefore killed Laurie, also if the other two should be released in light of the prosecutorial misconduct.
As I have said many times, it is irregardless which one used the knife to me, but not for my paper on this case. I don't think that LML and Tabitha should be released, not for a second, but isn't that the law? Like I said before, I am under the impression if someone is charged with a crime and that isn't proved or prosecutorial misconduct is proved it has to be thrown out of court?
You seem to be the only one with any questions, and what seems to be support of LML/Tabitha and Lawrence....even though you say in a completely different sentence that "they are all equally guilty".
I don't agree with that. I am not the only one with questions; many people have questions regarding this case. My questions aren't for myself. I have to come to a conclusion for my paper, who I think used the knife and if they should be released in light of the prosecutorial misconduct. AS I SAID BEFORE - I DO NOT WANT ANY OF THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN! If the law has worked against LML and Tabitha on this instance then I'm glad. Though I cannot say that on paper???
To clarify, I do not think LML / Tabitha / Lawrence are innocent, they are all as guilty as each other. I have no conspiracy theories whatsoever. I have to come to a conclusion on who I think used the KNIFE (which killed Laurie) and if LML and Tabitha should be released as the Prosecution committed perjury, I have to come to this conclusion FOR MY PAPER. At the end I know what I think myself but that is not what I have been asked to do.
In all my comments, I have not shown any desire for ANY OF THEM TO BE RELEASED, so for you to say I have conspiracy theories is really unfair!! I have not once shown any support for ANY OF THEM!!
Regards, Jada
-- Edited by Userev9531 on Wednesday 16th of September 2009 03:07:20 AM
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I'm happy you've reached your conclusion and the moral dilemma you seem to have been suffering is over.Why any school would ask you to write a paper reaching a conclusion on personal belief over factual evidence is quite the quandry.I however,have actual work to do that has to do with DNA and evidence,something they will most assuredly teach you later in the course.
So that being said,I'm done talking about this.You admit you haven't done the research and you don't know the law.I'm going to let Jill take you to school on that if she wants to.I honestly have not the time nor the inclination.
As for your allegation that what I said was unfair,well,this is a discussion board.I have the right to voice my opinion just as you have the equal right to voice yours. When the subject of LML comes up,it will almost always bring more pain than gain,and here,if you bring LML up,don't step up up to bat if you don't have the balls.
I watched the HORROR film last night, which made me feel physically ill at Laurie's fate (GOD BLESS). So I can empathise with your comments. I decided to research the story and stumbled on justice juntions which give an excellent indepth account. Again, today I felt compelled to read everything I could find including court documents. I thought the film was horrific but actually reading all the information surrounding this case was astounding and sinister!!! It really has played on my mind all day and what I would do if that happened to my son!
I just felt compelled to write my thoughts on the case, especially as Lawrence is free. I'm aware he made a deal for a lighter sentence which was encouraged by the police in order to convict the main culprit, LML. I whole heartedly believe Lawrence was in the house and he held Laurie down, Tabitha tied the rope (the rope was found by a dog which had the scent of her shirt) and initially it was a scare tactic planned by LML which escalated into a frezy and panic. The only option was to end Laurie's life which I believe would have been instigated by Lawrence at that point as he was in too deep with the previous rape and the fact LML thought Laurie might be pregnant (I read somewhere) Theres no doubt for me that LML used the knife, Lawrence held her down and Buck was a quivering wreck by the time is escalated out of control. However, they all played a part.
The only thing I could not comprehend in the court documents in the first trial is that the neighbour below did not hear anything accept when they went in and left the house. However, I read somewhere that a neighbour commented to Hazel about the noise when she arrived back home.
I hope someone catches up with Lawrence! He is just as dysfunsional as LML! and IF he was not in the house. He knew what they were planning, he could have prevented the situation from the onset. Thats why I am convinced he was in the house and held Laurie down as the back of his earing was found on her body and you need to have some strength to hold someone down who is fighting for their life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd hardly call it a "horror" movie,more like a true crime re-enactment. Most people believe as the court judged,that LML and Tabitha did the dirty works while Lawrwnce was there to make sure they killed Laurie. How else would hair,fiber and the pearl earring end up in Hazel Show's condo?
This is one of the rare cases that I think the death penalty should have been applied to.The crime itself was so heinous and PREMEDITED that IMO that is the most appropriate outcome,and it's a damn shame to Laurie's memory that Lawrence is out.
Hello everyone I am new here, so hi. I just saw this movie for the first time last night. After seeing it I spent hours of research on this. That is how I found you guys:) I find this to be a really sad story. I cannot believe that Lawrence got away so easy. Anyways good to meet you guys and looking foward to sticking around:)
Yeah,this has been going on for a long time.I've taken a lot of heat for my opinions on this case but they are what they are and unless some new evidence comes out [which is very unlikely,IMO] I don't think my mind is going to change.
Laurie and her parents John and Hazel Show did nothing to deserve what LML,Tabitha and Lawrence brought on them. It's been said that Tabitha was the only one that showed remorse [she did] and so deserved leniency/sympathy.Well I disagree with that.She deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law. People have free will and Tabitha knew LML had intent to do something to Laurie,even if she didn't know what it was.She went with LML willingly.
For similar cases in Ga, see: !)Terry Mincey - Mincey executed. Bobby Jones, who saved the lives of 2 kids by releasing them & telling them to run, served 25 of a 25 to life sentence.Third defendant(who was very likely to have fired shots in the murder), plea bargained for testimony & served 8 years.
2)Brandon Rhode/Daniel Lucas case - Rhode was executed last month; now, Lucas is downplaying his role in a triple homicide.
Does anyone know why we find this stuff so interesting? I should go back to school (age 49) in order to pursue a related legal field(already got a Psych major). Brad
I think many people are interested because we want to know why man can behave such brutality to his fellow man. Many people have never been the victim of a violent crime,making it all more interesting.
Abnormal psychology of all types has always interested me(I HOPE I'm normal!). I had a family member who survived a brutal assault in the 70s; 3 died, 3 lived. I will get back to you when I confirm the assailant's name; he was executed in GA in the early 1980s. Have you heard the recordings from Death Row in GA? The only such recordings ever supoenaed or released. They include Final Statements of the accused, recordings from the execution chamber, & most importantly(& completely) recordings from the command post/communication center just outside the death chamber. These document ALL communications, moment-by-moment. I will try to forward links.
Here is a link to "GA execution tapes". I think Ricchard Young was the executed criminal who assaulted my uncle. http://soundportraits.org/on-air/execution_tapes/complete_audio.php
Welcome newcomers. I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself on why I find this "stuff" so interesting. My family has been there, and is still there. A loved one died under mysterious circumstances many, many years ago, (long before the CSI age of today.) We will more than likely never find the answers behind his death. So I find this stuff interesting because I hope, even if it's in some small way, I can help other families find the answers that continue to elude my own.