Darlie Routier:child killer or innocent mother?

annarocket · Guru

Darlie Routier:child killer or innocent mother?

atlanta girl · Senior Member

yes anna this case would fit here on justice junction. once again another true crime book i have read but was few years back.the more i have heard on this case the more i lean toward dollie as a murderof her own children.is a tricky one since it is so hard to think a mother could kill her own children.especialy while they re so young.i believe the chidren was becoming a obstacalgetting in the way of dollie living in the high lifestyle she wanted.

itsybitsy · Senior Member

Anna, Yes I think so . I feel she did it!

itsy

annarocket · Guru

I'm interested in some of the crime scene photos I've seen. Darlie's arm was black from brusing and her throat was cut only inches from her carotid artery,which means she could have easily bled to death in a few minutes.

Anyone seen those photo's? I saw an interview with the jury froman who said that if they had seen the photos of Darlie's arm,she would be free today. Any thoughts?

ScaryMissMary · Pre-Newbie

Hello Anna,

I am new here, but I have as well read up on the Darlie Routier case (not the book) and I believe she is innocent. I remeber watching specials about it on Court TV and seeing the brusing and her neck wound and I do not believe she would do this to herself. It is a sad and tricky case indeed. But my heart tells me that she didn't do it.

<3 Mary

annarocket · Guru

The more I read,the more I think she didn't do it. She may have been shallow or materialistic, but I don't think she killed those kids. I don't know,I'm still researching the case.

ScaryMissMary · Pre-Newbie

Well, I myself have been mistakingly taken as a materilistic or selfcentered person. Really, people just mistake my questionable self-confidence as over confidence. She could possibly be the same "type" of person. I also have two young sons. I could never imagine, (even at my darkest moments-of which I've had a few) ever killing my own children. Even hurting them. Then turning the knife on myself? Inflicting such nasty wounds on myself?? And how did she bruise her own arms like that? I think people needed to hang someone for this and she happened to be holding some rope. People were not satisfied with her level of grief and automatically assumed she must be responsible. It is a horrible thing for a mother to have to suffer. A victim twice, within the same crime.

Anyway, that's just my $0.02 cents worth.

<3 Mary

atlanta girl · Senior Member

yes anna i saw that show in which dollie was being interviewd and where the juror said if jury had saw those photos she dollie most likey would be free today.now also duruing this same show. it wasbrought to attention. that the cuts the children were more severethan the ones on dollie.hers were more superficial.such as what a person would mostlikely have if self inflicked to where if an outsider had done the cutting her cuts would have been more severe.the fact that cut was so close to corotid artery could be because dollie had little knowledge of hoe artries work. i feel she just slashed across her neck. in how she thought a killer would do.i can not explain the bruises on arm. but i feel if she could go as far as slashing own neck. she could also cause brusing on her arm. i really feel she did her self in by having that birthday party at cemetary. i believe she is guility becase of her original 911 call. where she said i already picked it up. therefor providing a alibi for why her fingerprints would be on the knife.a innocent unsuspecting person just woke from a sleep would not even be thinking of creating a explantion of why their prints would be on weapon.it seems to me she thought out what she would say when calling 911 before she called.also is very unlikely someone would get into the house and only attack the children. and not the adults.i think most cases where there is a stranger intruder inside someones house that commits a murder in that house generally kills the adults first as children pose littl threat to intruder. unless the intruder is familar to the children and can testify aganist them.i can honestly say there have been times where i felt could kill my own sons but only after they hit their teens.but of course at the same time i would stand up for them against ant threat to them.i know you other mothers may find this shocking. especially if you have not had teen age boys.that think their grown at the age of 13 or so.well anyway i believe her 91 call was just too rehearsed.of an alibi to explain her prints being there.but of course she could suffer from munchison by proxy. disorder.wonder if she has been tested for this.but then again if she did have this there would have been earlier episodes where the children were hurt or sick with no reason found as case for illness so i guess that rules out munchison by proxy.

annarocket · Guru

Like I said I'm still trying to figure it out. The thing I want to know is why did her husband,Darrin,has stood behind her all this time. He obviously wants to believe she's innocent and I can't blame him for that.

At first I thought it was odd that she slept on the couch while he was upstrairs in the master bedroom with the baby,but heck,there are nights when I stayed up too late watching South Park or Futurama and slept in the loft so I wouldn't disturb my hubby.

I really don't have any answers. I'm still trying to figure it out so help me by posting your comments!

atlanta girl · Senior Member

yes anna that is another tricky one the husband standing beside all this time.i never thought it odd her sleeping downstairs for there has been many nights i slept on couchbecause i feel asleep there watching tv or reading.i think he believes she is inocent. you know lov is blind. after all for him to think she was gulity. first he would have to admit he married and made children with a murder.and he would be left looking like a fool. how could she have been capable of this and i didnt have the slighest idea.i dont think anyone ants to know they laid beside a killer.and was too blind to see it.

itsybitsy · Senior Member

Anna, No I have not seen those photo's would be interested to. I have read the books and I believed up to this point that Darlie did it, and I believe her hubby had something to do with it or why would the baby have been up stairs with the daddy...Kinda curious.

itsy

itsybitsy · Senior Member

Please explain away the cleaning of the blood off the sofa, wasn't that a hand print? or some such. Yes all her wounds were superficial , and myself personally you would have had to kill me to get to either of my kids, and weren't they in debt up to their eyeballs?? I think so.. Yes Anna research this one and let me know your take... Still feel she is quilty here...

itsy

atlanta girl · Senior Member

you are right itsy acording to the show i watched they ere in debt past their eyeballs.i have oftebn wondered if perhaps darli and husband had fight that night before going to bed. and he grabbed her by the arm thus leaving the bruses.is not dd to me the gbaby upstairs sleeping with dad my youngest sleep with his dad about every night whether iwas with them or not. he was daddys baby.

annarocket · Guru

I found out that Darlie has lost another appeal and I'm not sure if this was her last oppertunity to try to get a new trial. I really am curious about several things:

Why was her jewelry left undisturbed on the counter if it was a robbery gone wrong?

Why did she have blood from both boys and herself on her if she only picked up the one boy?

What became of her husband after all this?

Why was there a sock left in the alley behind her house with a bit of blood on it? And whose blood type was it?

Why have the police not investigated the fingerprint left on the coffee table when it was found to be none of the family at all?

I want to pick up this case. I thnk it would make an awesome story but we'll see. I have something going on another case and I need to finish that first.

one_eyed_Jack · Veteran Member

I can't make up my mind about it. Yes, her throat slash was very serious, but I can't figure out why the children received such horrendous deep penetration stab wounds while the mother only received a serious slashing wound. The area where she was bruised was in an odd area. Why would an assailant beat the inside of her arm area like that instead of smashing her in the head and about the face? Why would an intruder come in and start deeply stabbing the children while their mother lay sleeping only a few feet away? Obviously the children were the target of the attack. Still, there are things that are odd like the sock with blood on it outside and witnesses saying they saw a man in the area that night and previously. Either she did it, or someone wanted her to suffer having her children taken from her.

Dogfather · Newbie

I didn't read the book, but I did look at a website about this. I don't really have an opinion about her guilt or innocence, but I do think there is too much smoke there.(my way of saying too many strange or unanswered questions) I think the wounds can be explained, to a degree. I would love to talk to the defense investigator....lol

Rob

annarocket · Guru

I'd like to talk to the investigators on this case as well.I have thought about it a lot and still think that Darlie may be innocent. I read the autopsy reports on her children and it filled me with a profound sense of sadnesss that these two precious children were stripped of their lives before they had a chance to live them. Darlie has maintained he inncocnce for many years and I must say I'm starting to believe it.I don't know.I'm still researching this. Keep giving me your comments and any suggestions or articles pertaining to Darlie's case. Thanks!

itsybitsy · Senior Member

I read the book and want to know about the bloody hand print on the couch that was attempted to have been cleaned up????? sounds like something stinks in denmark to me...

its

Suzee · Member

I too thought she was guilty at first. Then later on Court TV they did a special on it and showed the photos of Darlie in the hospital with her throat cut and all of the brusies on her arms, that apparently was not shown to the jury, and now I am just not sure.

I believe that this story would be a very interesting story for Justice Junction.

I am new to this board and I know I will like it.

annarocket · Guru

I am going to pick this story up and see what I can do for it.

Keep your eyes on this spot for further news,or if you have something you want to share about Darlie and her case! Thanks!!!

Suzee · Member

Thanks, Annarocket. I think this is a most interesting case. You know that they found a bloody sock or some kind of clothing down the alley from the crime scene. I don't see how she could have planted that with her throat cut like that. But maybe I missed something.

cami · Pre-Newbie

quote:
Originally posted by: Suzee
"Thanks, Annarocket. I think this is a most interesting case. You know that they found a bloody sock or some kind of clothing down the alley from the crime scene. I don't see how she could have planted that with her throat cut like that. But maybe I missed something. "

It was a sock that had a couple of spots of both boys blood on it. She could have placed that sock there before she received the slashed throat.

Enigma · Senior Member

In 1996 I too watched all the media hype. Living in the DFW area it was a bit hard to miss. Due to this hype (and I really should know better, having been a media victim myself) I felt she probably did it. But over time the case kept popping back into my head so I resigned myself to truly investigating the facts, not media coverage. I started with the trial transcripts and what did I find? I found myself having major doubts. So at this time there is extreme reasonable doubt in my head anyway. I hope that when the evidence hearings resume they allow the defense to have everything tested. Considering the fact that the family paid to have the boys bodies exhumed to obtain fingerprints because it was not done when it should have been and then showed that the fingerprint could not belong to either one of them just goes to show how sloppy this case was handled. If the evidence shows her guilty then so be it, but I don't think so. IMHO

Suzee · Member

Hi Enigma,

Can you give me the link to the Darlie trial transcripts? I too have doubts. One of my problems is that, wasn't her husband in the house at the time of the beating and the murders? Seems odd.

Thanks,

Suzee

annarocket · Guru

Her husband was asleep upstairs at the time of the crime and her baby was upstairs asleep as well.

I'd like to see those reports too if you'd be so kind as to send me them at annarocket@hotmail.com or anna@annarocket.com

Enigma · Senior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: annarocket
"I'd like to see those reports too if you'd be so kind as to send me them at annarocket@hotmail.com or anna@annarocket.com

http://www.fordarlieroutier.org/Legal/index.html

this should get you to the transcripts. They make for very interesting reading. That is if you can get thru the errors.

The date to resume the hearing still has not been set. I am going to try to make it there if possible.

annarocket · Guru

Someone saw our conversation and and under the condition of anonimity sent me the autopsy reports of Devin and Damon Routier.I'll be going over them in the next few days and I'll be using them in my story.

Thanks Enigma for the link

St3phanie · Veteran Member

quote:
Originally posted by: annarocket
"I'm interested in some of the crime scene photos I've seen. Darlie's arm was black from brusing and her throat was cut only inches from her carotid artery,which means she could have easily bled to death in a few minutes. Anyone seen those photo's? I saw an interview with the jury froman who said that if they had seen the photos of Darlie's arm,she would be free today. Any thoughts? "

Hi anna, Do you know why the jury wasn't shown the pictures of her arm?

This is a very interesting case... very.

And I LOVE this message board. What a great group of people and an awesome wealth of interesting links and topics. I'm very glad I stumbled upon it :)

annarocket · Guru

Hey Stephanie,good to see you here.

I don't know why they didn't show the picture of her arm during the trials.The only thing I could think of was that for some reason the judge wouldn't allow it. And any lawyer in the country would have had huge blow-up's of her arms.....there's no way she could have cut her own throat and sustained that much brusing on herself.That just doesn't seem right to me.

Enigma · Senior Member

On another message board they have the "final findings" from Judge Francis. These findings are from an old hearing sometime last year. Darlie is still in Dallas awaiting the hearing date for the evidence that "is somewhere", it seems that some of the evidence can't be located. This is just an update only.